Dentistry really combines a lot of aspects I've looked for in a career. I love working with my hands, always have, just love making stuff. I've always been interested in the health field, in sciences, in health in general. I love working with people. Dentistry really combines all of that. I get to do all three of those things every day and that's what led me to dentistry.
I had a really good dentist when I was younger. I had a fear of the dentist, actually, when I was really young. I've gone to the same dentist pretty much my whole life. I just thought he was the coolest guy. Every time I'd come in, he'd remember stories about me and we'd talk. I always thought he was just an amazing guy. It wasn't until later in high school that I was like, "He's such a cool guy, I wonder what it'd be like to do that every day." I started shadowing him and got me hooked. It was something I really wanted to do.
I joined the military right out of high school and so my first degree was actually Aviation Maintenance Technology. I knew I had the ultimate goal of becoming a dentist. Kept going to school while I was active duty and ended up getting a bachelors degree in chemistry. It was kind of a toss up between biology and chemistry but just started leaning towards chemistry. That was it. UMKC, University of Missouri, Kansas City and then I applied to a university in Kansas City School of Dentistry and ended up getting in. It was obviously my first choice, not only for location but just you get a lot of experience there that you don’t get a t other dental schools. I was happy to go.
Dr. Neilsen was born and raised in Salt Lake City, Utah, where his interest in the medical field and motivation to care for others led him to pursue a career in dentistry. While growing up, Dr. Neilsen loved staying active and enjoyed spending time in the mountains year-round, whether running and biking on mountain trails in the summer or snowboarding and skiing on the slopes in the winter. After graduating high school, Dr. Neilsen started his journey in making his dream of becoming a dentist a reality.
Dr. Neilsen joined the United States Air Force with the goal of working on his pre-dental education while serving his country. Dr. Neilsen completed aircraft training in Texas and Florida, worked on the F-16 fighter aircraft in Japan, and completed his enlistment at Whiteman Air Force Base in Warrensburg, Missouri, working on the B-2 stealth bomber. During his time in the United States Air Force, Dr. Neilsen held many leadership roles and was honored with many awards, including the Air Force Commendation Medal and the Air Force Achievement Medal.
The most rewarding aspect of dentistry is that I get to take people out of discomfort, whether that be they come in because they're in pain and they need something done about it, I can take them out of pain. Whether it be they don't like to smile, they don't like to look in the mirror, they're embarrassed to smile or they don't like the way one tooth looks, like it's a different color than other. I like that I get to help people every day and there's nothing more rewarding than that.
Having so many doctors work in one practice really benefits them. Every doctor kind of focuses a little in different areas so that we don't have to refer patients out most of the time. If we have a patient who needs to be looked at multiple aspects of dentistry, we can hopefully do it all here. It's a lot for a patient to come to a new office and, and you meet the staff there, you feel comfortable with who you're around and then you don't want to be referred to another office because then you have to build that trust all over again. If we can keep you here and you could always see another dentist that you already trust, that's awesome for us and it works out even better for the patient.
After honorably separating from the military, Dr. Neilsen completed his studies at the University of Missouri Kansas City, where he obtained his Bachelor of Arts degree in Chemistry and Communication Minor, graduating with honors. Dr. Neilsen then attended and graduated from the University of Missouri School of Dentistry.
Dr. Neilsen is happily married to his wife, Affton. They have one son, Crew, and four fur babies, Stiletto, Chanel, Levi and Strauss. In his spare time, Dr. Neilsen loves being with his family and staying active through CrossFit and biking.
Dr. Neilsen is excited to join S&G Family Dentistry and looks forward to meeting and caring for the patients at this amazing practice.
This practice is unique because ... I've worked at a lot of places, had a lot of different jobs outside of dentistry, it's hard to find someone, just a person in general who has an engine, who works hard, who is dedicated to what they do. This office has managed to find a lot of them. Everyone who works here, everyone just works hard, and on top of that everyone is just great to be around. We hangout with each other outside of work and we enjoy being around each other in work. It's just a fun place to be. We're lighthearted here, but everyone works hard and everyone's number one goal is taking care of the patient. That's just a great place to be.
I guess my ideal patient would be someone who trusts me to do what's in their best interest. I understand that isn't a given so I'm willing to work for that trust, to know that I'm going to treat them the same that I would treat my mother or one of my siblings. I'm going to give them the same care and attention that I would give anyone in my family. My ideal patient would be someone who can grow to trust me and know that I'm looking out for their best interests. Things like anxiety or other dental fears, I feel like I do really well with patients like that because I myself had fear of the dentist growing up and was able to overcome that with an awesome dentist, so I would love to be that for other people.
I was brought up in dentistry. My father was a dentist. I went to practice with him. I went in as a dental assistant when I was a very young girl, about fourteen years of age I started dental assisting. Then as time went on, I decided I was probably going to do medicine more than I was even dentistry. A female physician came into the office one day, and she said, "Lynne, you've got to be a dentist." I'm like, "Everybody wants to be a dentist." Then she said, "Yeah, but this is so good and you're so good with people." I was like, "Maybe I should." I went into dentistry, and it's been the best thing I ever did. I've loved it. It's been my passion all my life. I guess I was born to do it.
I went to Creighton University for my undergraduate degree and got a BS in Chemistry there. Then went on to UMKC here in Kansas City and graduated from there. Then dentistry was a different thing when I started out. There were only 14 women in the class. There were 146 men. The world is a lot different now. It was a really demanding experience to go through, had a lot of challenges in there. It helped that I had been a dental assistant. People came to me going, how do you do this, how do you do this? It was much easier having already seen the procedures. I really enjoyed it. It was a really good experience.
Dentistry has always come naturally to Dr. Lynne Schopper. As the third child in a family of five, she took advantage of the unique opportunity to spend time with her father, Dr. George F. Schopper, by helping out in his dental office. At age 14, she began working in her father’s practice as an assistant, receptionist, and lab tech – wherever she could be used.
The invaluable experience she gained while working in the office through high school and community college furthered her interest in dentistry and led her to attend Creighton University, where she received an undergraduate degree in chemistry. She graduated from the University of Missouri School of Dentistry, at which point she returned to the family practice, where she furthered her learning by working directly with her respected father. “He taught me the value of the work we do and to treat each person who walked into the office as a whole person with kindness, respect, and dignity.” This warm and compassionate style of care stuck with Dr. Schopper and has become the core of her practice to this day.
I think probably the most unique about us, is when a person walks into our office, we take care of the whole person. We don’t just stop right here at the mouth. We spend time trying to find out what they really want from us. If they’re fearful, we’re going to spend time trying to leave those fears. If they’re a child, we are going to make this the best experience they could every have, because if we start with a child, we can make a lifetime good patient. Many of our older patients have had not fun experiences in the dental office. We spend a lot of time trying to get through those traumas. I think that’s one of the best things that we do.
My assistants are very gentle, caring. They really want to make the patient feel that sigh of relief when they’re sitting there not gripping the chair every time. I think we’re very friendly. We’re very well … Everyone is very well trained. You can ask any of the assistants or hygienists about a procedure. You don’t always have to ask the doctor. I know a lot of people are anxious about talking to us. They can ask one of the assistants any question and they will give them an honest answer of what they really … what the procedures like. If they need more time to think about it, they can talk to them more and more about it. I think that’s a really strong suit that we have.
We are a little unique in that we have male, female doctors. We have male, female assistants. That’s an unusual thing to find in a practice. We give the balance of both the male and the female in lots of different situations. Some people are more comfortable with a woman. Some are more comfortable with a man. Some kids are more comfortable with a male assistant they can talk sports to, they have a good time with. Some of the patients just spend more time with a female assistant. We offer all of that. We really have a total package here for anyone who needs to have care and any concern they might have. I think we pretty well have it covered.
My father truly believed in continuing ed. When I got out of school, my first year I spent more time going to continuing ed. than I did dentistry. I learned all new techniques that were out in the real world and I have continued on from there. I think continuing ed. is probably the biggest thing that helps us in dentistry. It's such a fast paced profession. We have digital x-ray's now. We have implant Dentistry. WE have different ways of doing root canals. Lots of different procedures: veneers, smile designs, orthodontics. I've done a little mini-residencies in cosmetic dentistry, implant dentistry, a lot in orthodontics. Also, again, my father had done a lot of ortho so it was a natural progression for me to do that as well.
Being a woman in the field of dentistry has allowed Dr. Schopper the opportunity to inspire young ladies in the community to pursue their professional dreams. Her graduating class contained only 14 women and 146 men! Pursuing dentistry when women in the field were considered a novelty set Dr. Schopper apart and allowed her and her father together to offer the best of both worlds to the community. She cherishes her part as a role model in the community and encourages all young women to follow their own distinctive path.
Dr. Schopper is a member of several respected organizations. Throughout the years, she has volunteered to serve on committees for organized dentistry. In 1998, she became the first female president of the Fifth District Dental Society. She has served as a delegate to the Kansas Dental Association (KDA) and remains an active member. Dr. Schopper is also an active member of the Academy of General Dentistry (AGD) and American Association for Functional Orthodontics (AAFO). Dr. Schopper’s work and talents in the field of dentistry have gained recognition, and she’s been inducted into both the prestigious International College of Dentists and the American College of Dentists.
I think probably taking someone who's really scared and having them become a friend and trust me. Probably one of the better experiences is to get an invitation to either their wedding or their child's graduation. How many people get that as a dentist? I think that's a very rewarding thing for me. I think I've done my job. I think that's probably the best.
I like a challenging case so people that come to me that really need a dentist to listen. I like to figure out more complex cases. A lot of times I get people who are a little older, who've had been to multiple dentists for lots of different reasons. They need somebody to sit and listen and figure out what the heck's going on with their mouth. Why they don't smile, why their teeth hurt or what I can do to give them a better experience in general. I like those kind of patients. I like spending time with them. That's kind of always been my thing. I think .. I don't want to say just because I'm a woman but I'm a good listener. I like to spend some time with them and figure it out.
She is married to Frank Theisen, an oral surgeon. Together, they have two wonderful children, Danny and Katie.
Dr. George F. Schopper’s motto was “treat each person as if they are your family.” Dr. Lynne Schopper invites you to experience the caring family and community atmosphere at S&G Family Dentistry.
All my life I wanted to be in something in the health field even when I was in second and third grade. When I got more into making a decision, going on to college and things, I didn't really have a direction that I wanted to go otherwise so I feel back into it. I got to know my orthodontist at an early age and that's what really made the connection that, that's the direction I might go. It's been a good decision for me. I haven't really regretted it all, but I don't have any magic, ah ha moment where I just wanted to do it. It just has always been in the back of my mind and when I went to college it kept going down that road and here I am today.
I came from a real small town in Kansas. I only had 16 in my graduating class so moving up the next level of school was a big deal. I went to Kansas State University, played football there, a football scholarship so that took me there, and then from there to UMKC Dental School. There's not a dental school in Kansas so I had to pick one in the outer laying areas. From UMKC then finished that and then been working ever since.
Most of my dental education has been focused in general dentistry to stay up on that kind of stuff but it’s mainly been in orthodontics and sleep apnea and those benefit patients in various ways. With orthodontics, we see kids from when they’re 3 up until they’re adults so to be able to watch them through that process and be able to hop in and do minor things at an early age can help prevent big problems down the road. It also ties into sleep apnea because a lot of our orthodontic patients with airway issues can end up being future sleep apnea patients so I think those 2 together really have tied in well for me in my education and my thought process and how I see things.
Then as far as sleep apnea goes, that’s a whole different animal I’ve gotten in to the past 6 years or so, 7 years and it’s opened up my eyes to a whole new area of medicine that I didn’t even know existed. I got into it for … I was in an orthodontic course actually learning more about orthodontics and this was a little sub side set of that and I’m a snorer myself so that’s what got me going and I thought, “Well, I’ll try one of these out for myself.” It worked like a charm and I thought, “Well heck this might be something that our patients might like” which then rolled into not just snoring but sleep apnea treatment.
I connect with Dr. Addy and then opened my eyes to a whole new area like I talked about and be able to help people in a whole different way. It’s not just treating teeth anymore, it’s treating the person, the whole body that these conditions that they have no other place to turn to and it’s been really rewarding for me in an area that I never really dreamed that I would be going in to 10 years ago.
Dr. Grosdidier aspired to be a dentist ever since he can remember. He grew up on a dairy farm in southeast Kansas, where he spent most of his time either working with his father and grandfather or practicing and playing sports. Although Dr. Grosdidier loved life on the farm, he knew that he wanted to become a dentist. He attended Kansas State University on a football scholarship, enjoying his time as a tight end, and completed his Bachelor of Science degree in biology and pre-dentistry. Balancing grades and athletics took a lot of time and hard work, but Dr. Grosdidier succeeded with honors both on the field and off!
After graduating from Kansas State University in 1998, he attend UMKC School of Dentistry, where he was able to start pursuing his passion. He graduated in 2002 and has been practicing in the Kansas City area since. As a dentist, Dr. Grosdidier takes pride in taking the time to get to know each of his patients and their individual needs by using a conservative approach to dentistry. He enjoys serving the whole family. It allows the practice the opportunity to really get to know their patients. Patients are not just a number, and many of them go on to become lifelong friends.
Helping people get out of pain, that’s part of what we do. Being able to treat someone for their lifetime and seeing generations of families coming through and getting to know the families and getting to know the people and see them out in public, those kinds of things are fun. Lately, the most rewarding thing has been treating the sleep apnea patients and watching them go from, “I have no other option out there,” to, “Oh, my gosh. This is doing what it needs to do for me and I’m feeling so much better. Thank you so much.” That’s been the most rewarding lately but as far as day to day stuff, it’s just taking people who don’t want to be here and making them comfortable here and taking care of their day to day dentistry needs.
I think it’s the sense of family. I know there’s lots of family practices out there but we really have a family practice not just in the bloodlines but in the feel. We have a staff that’s been around us for a long time. I trust our staff with anything. They’re as good as anybody out there. Our hygienists are incredible. Our assistants are great. Our front desk is phenomenal. I’d put our staff up against anybody’s staff. When I’m not treating the patient, I’m not seeing them directly and one of my team members are. There’s no doubt they’re getting top notch care. I think that comes through when the patients are here. They get, they can feel that. I think that our practice has been here for more than 60-something years says a lot too. We’re doing something right.
I think that we are a very honest group and are very direct group in a sense of very conservative and we’ll treat what needs to be treated. We’re not out there to just go throw 50 crowns in your mouth, things like that. We’re going to treat what needs to be treated. We discuss things with you. We make the decision with you as a group, you and I as a patient. It’s not just this is what needs to be done because I see it. I think it’s what we decide needs to be done between the two of us is how we come up with decisions. That’s how we treat our family back to our family analogy there. That’s how I’d want to be treated if I was a patient. That’s why I treat patients that way.
Dr. Grosdidier is a credentialed Diplomate and Board Member with the American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine (AADSM) and a member of the American Dental Association (ADA), Kansas Dental Association (KDA), and Academy of General Dentistry (AGD). He maintains the dental clinic at the Kansas State School for the Blind in Kansas City Kansas. He believes that it is both a privilege and an honor to work with the students and the staff at this school.
My ideal patient is one who’s looking for information and looking for a place that they fit. I think that we’re that way for a lot of people here. I think people come here because they feel that they fit well with us and I feel that we do a good job as an office creating an environment where people feel comfortable and that’s the kind of people that I like and people that are coming may be a little unsure, may be a little … Skeptical is not a good word but maybe they had a bad experience somewhere things like that and we’re the ones that they look at and go, “This is my place.” We have a lot like that and that’s really the rewards that I get from those patients.
Not that we look for those patients but those are the ones that take the most home from I guess you call it. As far as patients I guess that we see that we’re looking for, we’re looking for really any patient. It could be a child, it could be an adult, it could be a family. We see elderly patients. It really is a family practice. We see everybody and a lot of times altogether some of those families even at the same time, which is kind of fun too.
I like the diversity of our group, and I think patients do too. We have our patients that like to see this doctor, that doctor, or that doctor. For the most part, we all see everybody’s patients, whether it’s on a routine hygiene check, or something like that. There’s rarely a patient that I haven’t seen of the other doctors and vice versa. I think that some people just gravitate towards different personalities, or maybe there’s a male, there’s a female here, there’s different things people like, whatever their looking for. I think we can accommodate a lot of those needs for people. Also, it’s kind of neat too is that it’s not, “We only see you, and we only see you,” and like that. We see everybody, and it’s kind of neat to see the people that other dentists are seeing in the practice.
With that also, we can compare notes, compare cases, we collaborate a ton on cases and patients. Every day we sit back here and talk about, as a group, “This is going on. That’s going on. What would you do here? What would you do there?” You get more than just one doctor’s opinion on things. You get four of us working on it. That’s good, good for the patient.
Dr. Grosdidier and his wife, Kim, met in college and have been enjoying married life for more than 16 years. They have four daughters: Brynn (12 years), Josie (10 years), Elise (10 years), and Ava (8 years). He is an incredible dad who devotes his life to his family. Spending time with his girls is his favorite pastime. Dr. Grosdidier also enjoys working out, spending time with friends, and going on an occasional fishing trip. He is an avid sports fan and enjoys keeping up with all the local teams.
I am a continuing ed junkie. I'm always reading about things. One day I read this little article about help your patient quit snoring. I though, "That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of. A dentist helping a patient not to snore?" A couple of weeks later, one of my patients came in and I said, "Is there anything else I can help you with?" He said, "Yeah doc. Can you help me quit snoring?" I said, "I just read about this. Let's try it."
We tried it on him and a couple of weeks later, after I had put it in, we called back and he said, "Doc, you're a miracle worker. You hear me? A miracle worker." I thought, "This is interesting." He started referring aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers to me and all of a sudden I'm making these appliances for what I thought was just snoring.
Then there was this one patient who I sent the information into the lab, and the lab called me back and said, "We can't do it." I said, "What do you mean?" He goes, "There's not enough under-cut." Which may not mean too much to someone who's not in the dental world, but to me that meant a lot. I said, "Gee, I wonder what I do now." He said, "Oh, don't worry. Just bring the cast to the meeting." I said, "What meeting?" He said, "Yeah right. I'll see you at the meeting." I said, "I don't know what you're talking about." He said, "The American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine." I said, "I've never heard of it."
There was utter silence on the other end of the phone. He said, "You're making these appliances and you've never heard of that?" I said, "No." He said, "You need to be there." That was, I think, on a Wednesday. I cancelled all my patients on Thursday, flew out to Seattle, and for the first time in my life I heard the word obstructive sleep apnea. I had never heard of that. I just assumed people were snoring. I'm sitting, and I'm sure everyone in the room could hear my heart beating, because people could die.
Once I realized the severity, or how important snoring is as in indicator for people who may potentially have obstructive sleep apnea, it completely changed my path. I did all kinds of study. At that time, when I first started doing this, very few people did it. Now, in the United States, there are only maybe two hundred and seventy of us who are board certified and only thirty of us whose offices are site accredited in the United States.
I went through all of this studying because I found out I can really help people. Often times the first line of treatments in oral appliance, excuse me, a CPAP and patients, if they like it and it works great, it's fabulous. If they don't like it, it's not so good for them. What I do is make this appliance. Its changed people's lives. It's improved people's marriages. It's a wonderful area to be in and it's so fun to come to work every day.
Well, at that time, and that was about 18 years ago, there were no continuing ed classes. There was a small group of people, the American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine, who would get together and share knowledge. Obstructive sleep apnea and the prevention thereof has become such a hot topic. You can hardly pick up a magazine, TV program, everybody’s talking about obstructive sleep apnea and the detrimental effects on the body. At that time, I contacted the people that I knew who were the top people in the field and I said, “Can I come and spend a week at your office?” At the time that’s what you did. You just went and you learned from the people who knew it the best.
Now we have the American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine has courses. Lots of other companies have courses. We’re the only one that is not-for-profit, so we’re not trying to make any money on any educational. It’s just to teach people and dentists, physicians. That’s the other thing. When I first started doing this, physicians and dentists all I’m sure thought I was a nutcase, a voodoo doctor over in the corner waving an appliance on somebody, but now everybody wants to get on the bandwagon. It is just everybody wants to do it because they see the potential in how it can help people.
In 1995, Dr. Addy delivered her first appliance to help relieve a patient’s snoring. This proved so successful that Dr. Addy started to treat more and more patients and soon realized what a valuable option Oral Appliance Therapy (OAT) was to herself and her patients.
In 2000, Dr. Addy joined the American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine, where she is now a credentialed Diplomate and Board Member. She continues to increase her knowledge and commitment in the treatment of sleep apnea and snoring by following the recommended guidelines for treatment with intraoral appliances in OSA and snoring management. Before recommending a specific brand of appliance to a patient, Dr. Addy has actually first tried the appliance on herself. Dr. Addy only works with FDA approved appliances. She prefers to work with several types of adjustable appliances, the choice of which depends on many patient factors.Read Transcript
As a president of any organization, one has to be involved with it. As President of the American Board of Dental Sleep Medicine, we’re involved with credentialing people to be a dental sleep apnea dentist. In that respect, we have to … the candidate has to first pass a level of criteria. Then after they’ve met that, then they have to pass a 200-word questions exam. After that they have to have 15 exam cases or cases that they present.
Each on of these takes a tremendous amount of thought into preparing the exam. It’s all based on research. It has to be a verifiable exam, in that, we can’t ask a question that maybe I would do in my office, unless it’s verified by research. It takes a lot of time, reading lots of research papers, and putting that all together. Then also coming up with criteria for the cases that the candidate has to present. Again, it has to be something that you can carry forward from one person to the other so that there’s no discrimination between anyone. When a person presents their exam or their cases, we don’t know how it is. It’s so that we’re not prejudiced by anyone.
As far as on the American Academy of Dental Sleep Medicine, that’s, you might call, the Mother Ship. It was the first Dental Sleep Academy in the United States. It’s the only one that’s not-for-profit. We offer educational courses for dentists. We have a conference once a year that brings in all kinds of … Now, physicians come to our conferences. Physicians speak at our conference. We have people from all over the world who attend them, putting that together.
Just being really mindful. I think someone asked me, now that I’m President Elect, what’s my goal for the academy? As the President Elect, I don’t have a goal. I feel my job is to be open and listen to what the members want, so that then I can bring that forward. A personal goal? I don’t have a personal goal. My personal goal for my life, for my patients, for my practice is what can I do, how can I improve myself so that I give my patients the best care in dental sleep medicine that they could have anywhere?
Dr. Addy is devoted to the well-being of her patients and communication with referring members of the medical and dental fields. Her commitment to offering patients an option to treat their OSA and snoring is saving lives and marriages every day.
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I think when I first started, I was really afraid of it because I didn’t really … At that time, there wasn’t the research that’s involved in it now that literally shows the benefit we make in a person’s life. Now, for people who have mild sleep apnea, a CPAP or an oral appliance is equally effective. If you’re going to wear something every single night, it’s going to be more effective than somebody who has a CPAP and maybe doesn’t wear that every night. Once I felt comfortable and really understood what I was doing from a medical standpoint and a dental standpoint, then I really realized, “I can really help these people,” and people … One time, a man came in, one time, and he gave me a box of chocolate and I said, “Oh, what’s that for?” He goes, “Well, my wife wanted me to give you a hug and a kiss, but I said I didn’t know you quite well enough, and we decided a box of chocolate’s good.” All the time, people are saying they want us to come to the renewal of their marriage vows.
It’s just we’re helping people not retired, people who used to fall asleep at meetings, at dinner, people who couldn’t function during the day, and now they can. I think that’s what makes it so rewarding, because I can see physical changes in people as they get better. Some people who were too tired to exercise, now exercise. They now lose weight. They now have desires to take better care of themselves.
I’ve known Dr. Shopper for twenty-five, twenty-eight years, and I’ve known Dr. Grosdidier, probably eight or nine years. We have such an incredible working relationship in that we all support each other. I understand what they do, I understand what they do. It’s not me having a little niche here. Our whole office is trained in obstructive sleep apnea, they may not do it, but at least they are aware of it and know how to advise patients. It’s a wonderful marriage, if you will, in that Dr. Grosdidier or Dr. Shopper may see a patient in hygiene and they can tell, because everybody is trained here, they can tell, “Oh you may … Have you ever been told you quit breathing?” Or, “Have anyone ever said you snore?” And people go, “Yeah, I do.”
So now, they’re saying, “Well, maybe you want to see Dr. Addy.” Or , “Maybe we can do an unattended home sleep test on you, just to find out if this is an avenue that we need to pursue.” In my area, I may see a patient who has never been a dental patient at our office, but they come in and I’ll say, “Ooh. You need to have this, this, and this done.” So if they don’t have a dentist, I’ll refer them to one of our dentists. We would never refer someone who already has a dentist, I’d refer them back. It’s a hand in hand type thing. It’s not one of us doing one thing. Then as a patient has an oral appliance, one of the side effects is tooth movement. They may see that in hygiene because they’re seen more often there. It’s a wonderful marriage of all of us working together. It’s definitely not any one of us doing our own little thing.